I am a medicine doctor with about 10 years of specialization in oncology. I have heard that validating my professional credentials in Canada is very hard (it could take years to actually be able to charge for my professional services as a doctor) Does anybody have experience in this area? Are there any procedures that can be taken to shorten the validation of foreign credentials?
OK. I am a doctor myself from South Africa. When I came to Canada I had to work through a painstaking 3 year process to validate my medical license here. I was sent to a small city north of Regina for two rotations after I had finished the never ending exams, but finally I was awarded with my license.
Thus, it is possible, however the process is so painstaking that you may see medical doctors from Poland, Mexico and even the USA working in real state and even as taxi drivers.
Do your homework first before moving here. I do knot that the Provice of Ontario is changing the rules to speed up the validation of foreign medical credentials, but the process may take a while.
I came to Canada as a pediatrician. Now I run a catering service. Business it is not bad at all now, but it took me more than 5 years of frustrations to realize that I needed to do something else.
Canada is a tough place for foreign doctors. I do not know if all places are the same, but here is almost impossible.
It could take you many years to regain a practice license as you had at home. When I say years, I mean it! it could be as much as 5-6 years!
There is a lot of bureaucracy on this and many foreign doctors end up taking jobs. I would contact the Health Minister FIRST to see what would be the timeline for you obtaining a practice license in Canada.
Many people arrive to Canada thinking that they will be able to hit the ground running, but the sad reality is far distant from this.
I have a question regarding taking the canadian medical exams. I am about to sit for the MCCEE, but I am somewhat unclear about the sequence of the events. Am I right in my assumption that first an IMG has to pass on the MCCEE, then eligible to apply for the residence program; once admitted to the residence program and having done at leat 12 months of it, the IMG can take the MCCQE part I and II? Subsequent next steps include certifications and licencing?
Is the above correct?
I would be grateful if someone can share their experience getting cetified in Canada. How difficults it is (especially getting into the residency programs)?
Would be grateful for advice on preparation for exams and the following steps. Thanks to everyone who responds!
In your last paragraph you use the word "knot" and not "not" as the correct word. You complain about the testing requirements for new comers into Canada seeking to work as a medical doctor but made a mistake with the use of the wrong word. Foreign doctors should have a good working knowledge of the English language because our lives could depend on it. I support the current testing of foreign doctors to work here in Canada as a good thing. bye
Rahul, please learn how to speak, read and write the English language before trying to come to Canada to work as a medical doctor. Your message is broken English and not professional. Yes, we need medical doctors in Canada but qualified to do the job without putting people at risk. It's plain and obvious why this is nec.
just re-read your message, come on. Be Canadian must be to have a grasp of the English language and put it first
on the to-do list to qualify coming here. Why not?
what anonymous meant was 'know' and not 'not'. just because a person does not speak fluent english does not mean that he is a fool. Are you equating the knowledge of english with inteliigence? those comments made by you two were highly derogatory and demeaning. i suggest canada take steps to educate it's own lazy-ass citizens than ask for help from third world countries.
Excellent spoken English must be a requirement.
Many people outside the few big cities (especially older people) are not used to accents and find it very difficult, if not impossible, to understand English spoken with an accent (even a strong British accent). I find people from India especially difficult to understand, but I live in a small city with few immigrants so have little exposure to accents of any kind.
A knowledge of Canadian word usage, grammar, and colloquial expressions is also vital. After all, your patients' ability to understand you clearly may be a life & death matter!
All this can be learned, but it will probably require special language coaching to at least reduce your accent.
I would remind all Canadians that other than the aboriginal people of this country we are all immigrants. As for accents this country is populated with accents from coast to coast. Maybe if we took the time to really listen to another person then we could understand what was being said and wouldn't be so quick to judge.
Doctors, engineers and other skilled people truly do have a hard time practicing their professions in this country. I for one as a Canadian find this offensive and disheartening especially as we promote this country as the land of the free, and the land of opportunity.
The problem is mainly to do with residency. In Canada, after taking all the exams (both the Lingual and Medical) you are required to complete residency training. A major problem is the shortage of residency openings. The provincial colleges of physicians and surgeons, which grant doctors their licences, require that after medical school, doctors complete a residency: at least two years of hands-on training, usually in a hospital. An American residency is treated on a par with a Canadian one, but residencies in other countries are not. Therefore, the majority of immigrant doctors have to complete a residency here. Foreign doctors will only be considered after Canadian-trained graduates have found residency positions. They can compete in the second round—for the leftovers. The competition is stiff. In 2003, 625 international graduates competed. Only 67—about ten percent—found a position.
I am doctor and have a consultant degree in general psychiatry (Jordanian/Arab Board of psychiatry) and I'm thinking of coming to Canada and I would like to join a child psyciatry program as a sub-specialty, can anyone kindly outline the steps required for my qualification and how I would go about getting started in Canada so I eventually obtain a degree in child psychiatry.
Try to stay where you are guys .. doctors find it hard to settle down here. Ask the IMG;s their experience before coming to Canada. I heard one guy saying there are around 4000 IMG's who has cleared all the exams but can not be doctors because of residency. Even if you clear all the exams with 4-5 years it is hard to get the residency.
Contact some IMG's in canada before making a decision to come here. That can save your life.
HI my mane is john and im a new immigrant in canada. i Was a Docter in my home country but have to start fresh in canada. I would like to talk to fellow doctors who have faced the same problems. Please email me..
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I am final year medical student.After two months i will be grajuated having degree which will be registered with world health organization.I want to start my carear in canada.Is it possible and what is procedure.I am a pakistani
I am final year medical student.After two months i will be grajuated in M.B.B.S having degree which will be registered with world health organization.I want to start my carear in canada.Is it possible and what is procedure.I am a pakistani
Im a doc. want to decide which exam to give USMLE or Canadian exam ,if i clear my MCCEE exam can I get HRDC approved letter from Canada to go there and write my other exams.Can anyone help with a word of advice PLS...
Is the process any different for English Medical Schools? Canada has quite ties with the country still, and I well, its quite obvious that someone from here would be speaking fluent English.
Besides the fact that I attend one of the top 10 medical universities in the world... would this sort of heirachy speed the process up at all?
My neighbour (also a medical student) and I are planning on emigrating after doing a few years on the NHS, so we'd be really thankful to know some of the intricacies behind this process... Because from what I'm seeing here, it may even be easier for me to qualify as a MD in America.
As a born Canadian I am furious also. His remarks show his ignorance. I have several immigrant friends who are not perfect in the English language, who I would suggest are much more intelligent than that idiot.
I guess we have a lot of doctors with attitude here. I am a doctor in the making cos am in my 4th year medical school in Ukraine but visit Canada for the holidays and tried finding out all i can about coming to practise here on gradguation. The truth is, Doctors with other than Canadian credntials are not really recognised except they have a Canadian orientated credential. If u decide to come to Canada, prepare to come as a student, after which you get your resident permit and be able to practice medicine. simply adding another four years of medical school in Canada. any other means might just lead you to rock buttom and frustration.
Canada has chronic shortage of medical professionals specially doctors but more than 4000 International doctors are in the LIMBO and there seems no hope at all as the Politicians are Tooo MUCH worried about signs in French and English ,.... who cares about medical services??
You can easily become a doctor in Canada. First, complete the Evaluating Exam and Qualifying Exam part I. Then, apply for residency programs through CARMS. Also, you may alternatively look into individual provinces for their exams.
Check the websites for the AIPSO (Association of International Physicians and Surgeons in Ontario), www.mcc.ca (medical council of Canada), and check for requirements in each province. Most provinces in Canada require one to take Evaluating Exam, QE I exam and possibly TOEFL and TSE to apply for CARMS (residency program). Although there are more residency spots in USA , it is hard to get into US residency program if one is old (age) or it has been long since your graduation from medical school. However, in Canada, there is not much importance given to age. So for older foreign doctors, better chances in Canada. For younger foreign doctors, better chances in USA. In USA, one has to complete STEP 1, STEP 2 Ck, STEP 2 CS in order to apply through ERAS for residency in USA.
the canadian authorities should stop giving the impression to foreign train doctors of employment opportunities cos is so appauling to know that many qualified doctors end up getting frustrated in the quest of getting a license to practice in canada, the most annoying is the restriction of US trained doctors as well, are they claiming to have a better training programm than the US? they should review their policies to improve medical services in canada.
I am from Pakistan. I have just completed my Higher secondary certificate and now I am eligible for applying in both MBBS and BDS. The thing is that my family is moving to Canada and I don't decide either doing MBBS or BDS will be a right option to avail if I shift to Canada. please let me know. Also tell me what is the job scope in canada for Doctor of Pharmacy.
peace be upon u .
Iam medical student at 4th year ..
after i complete my study .can i get a job right there .how
please if u wanna help me give me the plan step by step.....
by the way I would like to be a surgeon .tell me wt's the most thing or subject surfing in it . & to know every thing about it "I mean " which subject I have 2 concentrate on it
thanx
Hi, I'm Kumar,finished my MBBS from Ukraine,Now I'm giving my MCI screening test.I have writen 2 time but cant pass the exam here we can not work untill I pass the screening test,so I have disided to leave the profession and want to shift in to another profession.so help me to what profession i can choose. this is my ID me.
thank u.
