I am doing an exchange year in Zurich, and after a couple of months I have to say: Switzerland is just boring, and so are the Swiss!!!!
For all the people thinking of moving here, you better think twice!! I personally regret having gone to Switzerland (I could have opted for Italy and Spain as well), as I honestly think my exchange year would have been far more interesting in another country!
It's good to see so many losers, ignoramuses and ne'er-do-wells trashing Schweiz. This is great negative advertising! We in Switzerland don't want the low-lives and degenerates coming here. To them, we say: Oh! it's so boring here and we look down our noses at you; you will hate it here! Better for us that we welcome people of class, quality and industry. Losers and stupidos need not apply.
Yes, because no person of class, quality and industry would ever think to criticize any aspect of Switzerland.
Why, that is precisely THE factor that distinguishes the persons of class, quality and industry from losers, ignoramuses and ne'er-do-wells!
At the airport, you could ask all: "Will you praise the motherland in all personal and virtual interactions?" "I will" ... "Will you at any point cast a critical eye to anything you witness?" "I will not!" ... "You may pass good sir" ...
This country is like Anderson's Gingerbread house: all chocolate and fairytale on the outside, and one hell of a viscious den on the inside.
Swiss know how boring, joyless and stupid they are. In the presense of "educated" foreigners (i.e. actually normal people from other countries), they feel insecure, dull and in constant defense-mode. The psyche is that of a child who never quite becomes adult, and eventually succumbs to old age having missed out the joy of mature adulthood, with all the good laughs, the desperate cries and challanges of life. The repression starts in childhood and ends with death. If you really want to ruin the last few moments of a Swiss person's life, put him in a hospital with dying foreigners, all exchanging the golden moments of their life. Hans-Ueli will die realising his so-called happiness was a robotic one and that he actually died a long, long time ago.
soon the german scientists, romanian workers and british top-managers will steal all your good jobs, my dear swissies and you will clean our toilets and shoes with your toothbrush. "schwyzertütsch" will be an anecdote of the past nobody will ever remember, disappear like the dinosaurs. can't wait to see the day when finally all foreigners like us have the right to vote in your corrupt, asshole country and we give you a f***ing ass-kick, my dear swiss shitters lol
I'am Swiss, just that i mentioned it in the first place
i'am kind a shocked, what all of you're saying, how bad it is here, the place i lived in now for 24years..
- then i thougt about it and probably you're kinda right to many people occupied by buying shit they don't need whit money they don't have and loosing every since of social relationship inbetween, while they trying to work 60h a week to pay all the bills, that they don't even remember whatfor they paying... lots of people loosing any belives, any imaginations of freedom... still it's everywehere around the globe, if luxury is to high...
sad, still i won't count myself to this group of people..
many people just livig for them living, try to see live.. try to feel live... so i'am gonna do now
I gotta say that the best lovers are in Switzerland, my girlfriend is just a sex machine and of course: SHE IS SWISS!!!!! I don't think I could get better sex then with her, so to that little guy that said that swiss are the "worst" lovers, well... I think he confused a girl from other country thinking she was swiss =D
I spent my Christmas vacation in St. Gallen, Zurich, and Basel last month.. and well....all...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I don't believe that the Swiss are the best lovers....no way.
Your woman is probably only half Swiss. Or maybe Kama Sutra was accidentally sent to her address from Ebay. Maybe she hooked up with some crazy Spaniard on her trip south and he taught her, or perhaps she watches travel shows on TV and realized how boring Swiss-style sex lives really are.
Swiss are forbidden from mowing lawns on Sundays - too noisy. So at least to respect her owncountrymen and women, does she keep it down when having sex on God's resting day?
switzerland is very boring especially the german part, but don't worry the french part as well,
people are so boring and it s almost IMPOSSIBLE to have sex..
i'm swiss. i have been studying in beijing for a year and a half now, i came here right after graduating from highschool, so my perception of switzerland is limited to a part that most expats won't know.
i'm very conscious of the fact that all the strict 'etiquette' and everything makes swiss people quite cold, but i have to say that most of the people i met in highschool liked to party and make jokes and smile...
for the partying, obviously switzerland is not the best place for clubbing(but that's to be expected as our biggest city's only 1mio. people), but we young peop's make our own events sitting by lakes, in the forest, or at people's home, cooking pasta and drinking beer and listening to music till dawn...
oh, and it's the same for university students, really. the polytechnic school in lausanne has its own student-organised bar...with good beer and it's a good place to escape from all that maths and physics they study there (my brother used to work there,and he's a pretty funny guy in my opinion)
oh, and my dad who is 58 loooooves laughing. i remember when i was a kid and my parents would have friends coming over for dinner, i often could'nt sleep until late because they were laughing so loud. oh, makes me feel nostalgic to think of that.
anyways, i have a lot of foreign friends here in beijing, and they don't seem to hate me or to think i'm cold and boring, so as a normal person i apologise for the racist and narrow minded people you might meet in this tiny country, i don't like them either, and i hope you can find the other ones, because living in a country whose people and culture you hate isn't very comfortable... so why not give switzerland another chance?
I too have a very poor opinion of Switzerland, already covered quite well by other posts so instead I'll tell of my experiences of Swiss people away from Switzerland
Away from home, they still have a serious superiority complex, are utterly humourless, they don't want to mix with the locals because it is beneath them. They are scared of everything and refuse to try anyting new or open themselves to new experiences or in fact - they won't even attempt to just 'chill out' and enjoy themselves.
I know of one Swiss woman whose supriority complex led her to a lot of trouble when I lived in Ireland. She had some sort of an ongoing gastro type problem and had been thoroughly examined by Swiss doctors and they could find no cause. I knew this Swiss woman in Ireland and I asked her one day if she has informed her family doctor (GP) about her gastro problem. She looked at me with contmept and told me that as Swiss doctors couldn't find the problem there was no need to inform Irish (que sneering look) doctors and they couldn't POSSIBLY fix what Swiss doctors had missed. Anyway, Swiss womans gastro problem kicked in to high gear soon after that. Swiss woman knew from past experience what medication would help her get over it, but because she had never informed irish doctors and they had no recorded history of her illness, they wouldn't believe her (absolutely the correct thing for them to do from a clinical point of view). So it resulted in them giving her a suppository (a giant pill you stick up your ass). I loved it
The most telling was when I lived in London and the July 7/7 bombing happened on the tubes and buses. I unfortunately knew a bunch of Swiss people at the time, and also knew others from many other countries - UK, Ireland, French, Italian, American, Australian - and I have to say that out of all the groups the Swiss handled it by far the worst. Not denying that 7/7 was a terrible time and we were all scared and worried, but every group I knew got on with things, they took it in their stride as best they could and pulled together and got on with it. But not the Swiss. They were HYSTERICAL. They just couldnt handle that there was serious danger in the air, some refused to go to work or even step outside. They all huddled together in petrified faced groups like they were all about to be shot by a firing squad in 5 minutes time. They just could not handle the situation at all. Then their infamous lack of humour led them to further problems as certain cultures (especially the British) will deal with situations like that by joking. Not joking at the expense of victims or anything like that but small little jokes to raise their own spirits above the horror thats going on and to motivate themselves, for example a victim of the bombs lying on the floor of the train with his leg blown off saying 'dammit - late for work AGAIN'. That type of thing. That led to consternation among the Swiss - how could you possibly joke at a time like this when joking isn't even accepted at the best of times!! They just couldnt understand that this humour was an aide to people, it helped them get by. For the swiss it seems like humour has no purpose - it's a waste of time
I could go on with many many stories but you get the jist. For those who say that if you don't like Switzerland then don't go there, please also keep your Swiss people from going abroad. The Swiss can't handle it - it's safer for you guys at home
Jay hit the bull's eye. The Swiss are the biggest bunch of euro-morons who simply don't understand they are needless human garbage. They don't get a goddam thing, don't share their money and don't understand other people's mentality. Time to kick that white asshole country to the moon.
It might help to lern the local language or at least speak ONE of the national languages (u even get a choice) instead of just speaking english and expecting everybody to undestand properly, no matter what accent u have..
But anyways, if Switzerland is soooo boring and ALL people are soooo cold and soooo reserved, why don't u just go home????
I have lot of Swiss friends and non of them is boring, cold, reserved or anything like that. But that might come from the law of attraciton. You get what u send...
learn german or french?? hellooo!! get on wikipedia and read yourself (if you can) how many people speak english on this planet and how many people speak german or french!! it's up to the swiss to adapt to us!! i am a free person and say what i think everywhere. and if i think the swiss are f***ing assholes and their language is a useless monkey language i don't want to learn they have to accept it!!
It usually depends only on you if its boring or not. If I hear you moaning with all this diversity right in front of you, I almost have to throw up. Go home to Mamma Dude!
another example of a retarded, swiss pillock (thomas) who doesn't understand anything.
white boy: go to the mountains with your cows and heidis. soon we'll take your job coz we're MORE and don't need any goddam visa any more to work in CH, so... SHUT UP!
your such an idiot who doesn't even understands what he talks about himselfs.. Regarding Adapting: the ones who are foreign have to adapt asshole!! Swiss only need to adapt when they live outside the country. Inside its YOU who has to adapt!! Or are u really too stupid to learn a second language? Btw. Swiss kids mostly speak at least 2 or 3 languages. So who's the dummy huh??
sure I get it and I know that English is super important and spoken almost worldwide. But u have to respect local langages and every human has the right to speak its native langage and to live its one culture!! I am honestly amazed how good most Swiss ppl. speak English even its a foreign language to them. Where I come from, almost nobody understands english and you could never even dream of making friends without speaking the local language.. I just think that if you life in a foreign country you should respect ppl. way of life and thinking. I have a lot of Swiss friends here and I feel very welcome but Im afraid that one day they start refusing foreigners because of such asshole like u guys in this forum which are disrespectful, retarded and totally unwilling to adapt to a different way of life or thinking. Typically American Ignorant Idiots!!! U guys are even too stupid to understand the beauty of learning a new language or anything new at all.. Go home and die eating shitty hamburgers!!
a alli Schwyyzer: Ich finds ächt s'Allerletscht was da über eus gschribe wird. Ich mein sorry, wänn sie sich nöd apasse chönd sind halt sälberschuld, äs git ja meh we gnueg cooli Sache zum unternäh da damits nöd langwiilig wird und das wüssed mir alli. ich schlah deshalb vor mir schribed nur no uf Schwizerdütsch, damit die Deppe grad mal afönd checke dass sie nöd erwarte chönd dass jede ihri doofe Änglisch-Wortspiili verstaht. Schliesslich hämmer e eigeni Sprach wo nöd söt stärbe wäg dere überwiegende Ami-Dominanz uf dere Wält oder??
hey f***ers, there are even much more ppl. speaking chinese than english and they also don't come to ur country and expect all of you understanding chinese properly just coz its spoken by so many ppl worldwide.. your so ignorant!! obama is totally right!!!!
Hey there! i'm swiss and honestly i think that switzerland might be boring sometimes(and most of the swiss are)... but i think many of you are judging in the wrong way.
You CAN'T expect people in switzerland to be as your best friends back home... and i think that it is wrong to think that ALL the swiss are boring/racist/paranoied or w/e. I am swiss, i was born here and i grew up here, still i always smile and i love speaking to people i don't know i LOVE jokes and having a good time. might be cause i live in the south (lugano) so i am really influenced by the italians.. idk... but hey i do understand what it means having to watch youtube to have a good laugh... some time it's hard to find an open-minded swiss...but there are some... and when you find one you won't regret it.
I've been following this thread because I come to meet my girlfriend in her own country often, and while I adore her, one day in sadness and desperation, I typed in "Switzerland is boring" and this is the thread I found!
Basically, I find that the Swiss are afraid of excitement and real spontaneous fun. While I realize security is all fine and dandy, coming from a truly diverse society (like, with a Black president! YAY!) I love exploring and enjoying other people. I AM bilingual, btw... Anyway, I honestly initially came here with an open mind and a desire to possibly stay (because basically, I am totally in love with my GF). However, the conservatism and coldness (some would say meanness) of the people shocks me.
Consider the fact that you must pick your baby's name from a government supplied list... how crazy is that? And yes, even 'liberal' Swiss will defend this to their last dying day! Swiss site strange names and say 'what about the child's feeling' which is basically a way of making fun of others, while not having to accept the responsibility for accepting difference.
Yes, as is seen in the movies, a Swiss idea of standing out is using the wrong colored garbage bag. While I admire that everything 'works', this clinging to security is almost killing me. Moreover, I find Swiss people will make fun of me for my spontaneity... For this I really suffer. If you are not along for the ride, fine, but really, would it kill you to look the other way?
Also, people don't talk to each other. This cold-ness is certainly noticed by others. If you are from a village 10 miles away you are a stranger. Why so defensive? We live in a diverse world, and foreigners are certainly here in Switzerland! So why not really let people integrate, if it is such an issue for you? We need your help to integrate! Talk to us! Open your mind! Is this not logical?
All this said, my GF is the most delightful person. However, she is a stranger, at least a little bit of one, in her own culture. She won't date Swiss people. While unschooled in sex, she is willing, interested, and damn tired of shy Swiss boys who shudder at the prospect of being real: confident (or even openly sensitive) men, men who might dance openly (unless of course, they are gay - I admire the gay culture here), be emotional, and available. Heck, I watched one guy refuse to give a bite of food to his GF, from his own plate. He acted like to do so was a serious affront, after all, it broke the etched-in-stone table-manners! When I joked about it he was ready to start a fight. The poor girl!
After seeing that, I could see why I was such a catch to my GF.
I do hope my gf is willing to move to a better place... however even she is afraid of losing her precious 'security', such as it is. I do try to remind her that while she makes a big salary, everything is 2-4 times as expensive as they are in my country. Doesn't seem so appealing when you take that into account. Sure, she feels rich when she comes here, but is that all you want? Some vague awareness of superiority?
Honestly, I would love to be convinced of other conclusions. Can someone help me? Like many posters, I simply want to find a way. However, I am sad, because while I admire my love, I don't know if I can do this... Any advise, honest advise, would be lovely... I don't know, we'll see...
I too typed "Switzerland is boring" on google. I too am still in Switzerland only because I am in love with a Swiss girl, who loves her security and financial well-being here, and also will probably never date a Swiss man ever again.
I do say one thing: If you move to CH, and marry her, or have a family, then you really must understand that you will sacrifice much of what you love in your life and your country, and will have to sing the swiss song of integration. I am not sure I am going to do that move.
By the way, I know that kind of Swiss guy you mentioned, see it over and over, they are the most insecure and charmless lot of half-men you'll ever come across.
it's time to boycott switzerland in all aspects: economy, education, banking, etc. this country is so corrupt and racist. they have to apologize for all crimes they did in history.
Pedophiles,lesbians,homosexuals and dishonest people.The criminals are not living on the street but they are integrated in the society for organising all kind of (social and professional) traps against strong/well educated creative immigrants and real intelligent swiss citizens.A very modernised form a dictatoria/vandalism and impossible to compare to other primitive arabian or asian primitive backwarded lands ruled by dictators.The modern laws are used only for hiding their mentality and taste from middle age times.If you are an idiot they will give you everything for make you happy but if you are a honest person who know well about what the the word "quality" means you will be completely disapointed and maybe destroyed.
Gosh u r the most desperate person Ive ever seen *lol*. Get a life!! No wonder u guys all don't have friends here, u spend ur time in front of ur pc moaning around and weeping like little kids. self-pity is not very attractive for other ppl to make friends with u...
Hello, I live in Switzerland and I do not know how long I can be here. And if I'm here is for my boyfriend.
Because a few months ago I took a dip to be here.
I am Spanish, and the truth is all so different, it's boring. In Spain there are many activities for not getting bored, you can go out at night in many places. But the malls here close at 5 a Saturday! incredible that a close as soon as Saturday, and lueog you do? But if it snows and where are you going? because you stay at home watching TV.
In Spain it was a movie, to dinner without having to spend a lot of money. Because here's all (expensive) CARISIMOOO!
Hay muchos lugares para divertirse. Porque no te vas a una club latina para bailar un poco? Por ahi tambien puedes hablar español porque mucha gente lo hablo aqui. Hay fiestas latinos cada dia de la semana en Zurich y no te cuesta mas que CHF 10.-
Yo vivi en Madrid y me parecio mucho mas aburrido que Zurich - es como es, si no tengas muchos conocidos, es aburrido dondequiera... Y ademas, los espanoles solo hablan espanol.. Todavia mas dificil para acostumbrarse!
Zurich was recently voted most livable city in the world. It is wonderful. The symphony and opera have fine reputations, it is the business capital of the country, and the public transportation is wonderful.
I am a expad in Zurich, this wonderful City. I am happy to have found this great Club/ Bar. i love this place.
I'm American and I've traveled all over Europe and have lived in Switzerland. There is no other European country I wouldn't rather live in than Switzerland. I can't stand the racism, anti-semitism, and xenophobia in Switzerland. I lived there for a year, and I'm so happy that I will never live there again. I don't want to generalize an entire culture of people, but its the overall mentality and tolerance that produces this image of Switzerland. The worst part of it all, most Swiss think they have it perfect and that it's the best place to live in the world. Wake up! Go travel a little bit, try something new. There's more to the world than lifeless life in Switzerland!
Thanks for your clear statement, Nicholas. We all agree with you. White swiss are the most racist, greedy, unfair and selfish people existing. It's not about generalizing, it's just a fact. Plain and simple. So...
LOOOOLLLL everybody against this racist bunch of morons called "swiss" hahahahaha hey swiss: MAKE ENGLISH OFFICIAL LANGUAGE and PISS OFF!!! When are your banks going to crash? Tomorrow? After tomorrow?? In a week?? LOOOOLL can't wait to see all those swissjerks on their knees begging for us foreigners to help them!! :---))))))
I am so relieved to hear that the majority of people are experiencing the same thing as me. I speak fluent french and have been living in Lausanne for over a year and a half. I can't hack it here.I have lived in many counteries but this is the worst experience EVER!! Roll on recession so we can all go home and leave this racist farmers behind!!
i agree with all people who says that swiss are racist and cold ,also its boring like hell .i tought im all the time maybe im the only one who thinks like this ,but i got amazed when i saw all this forums .swiss is great to see for a week vaccation but not to live in ,i think u will make the biggest mistake in ur life .and guess what i agree with all this poeple who talks schit about this fucking racist country they think that they are the best in the world
i never saw so much ugly poeple ,racist ,cold
like in swiss .
mrani
of course not everybody and everything in switzerland is boring, cold, and unfriendly. MOST of them are. ppl who r defending swiss will always be able to find examples of switzerland being fun, but the fact is in general, switzerland is one of the most boring places to live
YES.THIS IS RIGHT.ACTUALLY SWITZERLAND IS ONE OF THE WORST MODERN COUNTRIES CAUSE OF ITS VERY OLD FASHIONED MENTALITY.THANX TO THIS MENTALITY MOST OF SWISS CITIZENS ARE IGNORANT,STUBBORN,EXTREMELY JEALOUS,AND VERY RACIST.THOSE APES NEED A HARD LESSON FOR CHANGE THEIR MIND FROM MIDDLE AGE TIMES.
Swiss people are just very opinionated. You can't help that.
I was born and grew up in Zurich, and as soon as I could I went to Berlin. Now I just got back to Zurich a few weeks ago and I'm already PISSED like hell! They've never failed to remind me that I don't fit in with the popular crowd (and they're terribly OBSESSED with first impressions).
But why should anybody try to fit in with anything that's less fun?
Switzerland is just the most irrational country in the whole world!! If it is not complicated, is not swiss!!! WTH??
I dun understand how people can even think of having a chalet in the valaisan alps!!!! WTF!! U need to take a stupid funiculaire everyday to go whereever u want.........La vie en Suisse c'est pas la classe!!!
Stores closing at 7:00pm???
Pharmacie as well?? Grocery as well?? there's no kiosk open at this time.....so if u need something to drink or eat......u are more than screwed.....Switzerland will have nothing for you..........
Don't come to switzerland for a long stay!!!!!! Just for a short vacation!!!! Get the hell away from this place!!!!
and of course: SHE IS SWISS!!!!! I don't think I could get better sex then with her, so to that little guy that said that swiss are the "worst" lovers, well... I think he confused a girl from other country thinking she was swiss =D
